>
> From: "Paula Riches" <paulair@ntlworld.com>
>
To: "'ELEANOR SCOTT'" <eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>,
"'john ireland'" <devonshire1968@hotmail.com>,
"'david butler'" <davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>,
"'gerald vernon-jackson'" <geraldvj@gmail.com>,
"'Hugh Mason'" <h442@btinternet.com>,
"'les stevens'" <cllrljstevens@aol.com>,
<darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk>,
"'steve wylie'" <stevenewylie@aol.com>,
<margo10226@hotmail.com>,
"'lee hunt'" <ljhunt@ntlworld.com>,
"'dave fuller'" <dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk>,
"'lee hunt2'" <richard.adair@ntlworld.com>,
"'terry hall'" <twhall@supanet.com>,
<jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com>,
"'leo madden'" <leo.madden@googlemail.com>,
"'Mike Andrewes'" <portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>,
"'Cheryl Buggy'" <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com>
>
Subject: RE: Please read this [Re: Shunning]
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:55:13 +0100
>
> Hi Colleagues
>
> Sorry I did not make the Lib Dem meeting but I voluntarily put myself into
> solitary confinement as my daughter’s partner has swine flu and I have had
> my daughter and
6 week old baby staying with me this week.
>
> On the matter of a certain person. I have seen Michael
Lawther on many
> occasions stating that we as councillors should have some kind of protection
> from this
man. Then we get two security officers. That was not what I
> wanted and guess you all agree with me.
>
> I have also made it clear that should I become Lord Mayor next year I will
> be taking a very strong approach to having
unscrupulous individuals
> disrupting our Council Meetings. If there is proof of his allegations
> that’s acceptable but without such proof
he will not be allowed to speak or
> make accusations against councillors or council officers.
>
>
I would be most grateful if one of you gets back to me on the results of
> today’s discussions.
>
>Many thanks Paula
>
>
>
From: ELEANOR SCOTT [mailto:eleanor.scott@btinternet.com]
> Sent:
17 July 2009 09:14
> To: john ireland; david butler; gerald vernon-jackson; 'Hugh Mason'; les
> stevens;
darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk; steve wylie; margo10226@hotmail.com; lee
>
hunt; dave fuller; lee hunt2; paula riches; terry hall;
> jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com; leo madden;
'Mike Andrewes'; Cheryl Buggy
> Subject: Please read this [Re: Shunning]
>
> I agree also. Please can this be the first item at the Group Meeting at 4pm
> today? In the current circumstances
of harassment and being in a certain
> person's sights, I don't want to be too late home to my children.
>
>I was told on Tuesday afternoon that, given that a certain person was
> planning to attend my Env Decision Meeting the following morning to speak on
> each item, I would be 'provided with security'. I rang David Williams
and
said that if there was perceived
to be a risk to me (or staff) then the
> person should be barred from building. Otherwise I would not attend the
>
meeting. David chose not to seek to bar the person (despite there being
> numerous precedents of members of the public
being barred from various
> council premises) so I took a principled stand and said I would not attend
> the
meeting. It was therefore cancelled. (Business I believe moved to Full
> Cabinet - a fudge rather than a solution)
>
> I spent much of Wednesday talking to CID and will be making another formal
statement of harassment - there so much more going on - and I would
expect
> now that the Group agrees that the Leader will instruct David
Williams to
>
ban this person from the Civic Offices and the Guildhall, and/or slaps an
> injunction on him. I also spoke to a firm of solicitors who suggest that
> "even a complex injunction should cost no more than £550 includung any
court
> fee."
>
> Members of the public have been barred from council buildings for far less
> than he has done. One of our own members' sectearies has been threatened by
> him, for goodness sake -
and yes, she did make a formal written statement
> and was interviewed by DC Julie Way.
>
>I feel
totally let down. I checked with Stephen Kerr in legal whether the
> Council has a duty of care to its councillors
while they are on council
> premises engaged in council business. The answer is yes, the Council has a
> duty
of care to all people lawfully on its premises including councillors.
> So where do the taxpayer-funded security guards
fit into this?
>
>There are others in the Group whose lives are being turned upside down by
> this
man.
>
> I can't go into a Neighbourhood Forum without him standing at the door
> shouting at me. Even at a Cabinet Meeting I'm always wondering is he going
> to waiting on the stairs, or by the toilet, or in Guildhall Square. If I
> can't do the job I was elected to do, what's the point of being a
> councillor?
>
> The lies he is telling about me on his website and not only defamatory of
>
me, but damage the Council's reputation and I cannot for the life of me
> understand why the Chief Executive is
allowing this to happen.
>
> One further thing - I am complaining to the Bar Council about a certain
person's barrister. She recently told a jury
something about me that was
> untrue,
and that formed what was probably a significant part of a
> (successful) defence.
>
> Thank you for reading this far.
>
>Yours in haste
>
>Eleanor
>
>
> --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Cheryl Buggy <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Cheryl Buggy <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com>
>
Subject: Re: Shunning
> To: "john ireland" <devonshire1968@hotmail.com>, "david
butler"
> <davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>, "gerald
vernon-jackson"
> <geraldvj@gmail.com>, "'Hugh Mason'"
<h442@btinternet.com>, "eleanor
scott"
> <eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>, "les stevens" <cllrljstevens@aol.com>,
>
darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk, "steve wylie" <stevenewylie@aol.com>,
>
margo10226@hotmail.com, "lee hunt" <ljhunt@ntlworld.com>, "dave
fuller"
> <dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk>, "lee hunt2" <richard.adair@ntlworld.com>,
>
"paula riches" <paulair@ntlworld.com>, "terry hall" <twhall@supanet.com>,
>
jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com, "leo madden" <leo.madden@googlemail.com>, "'Mike
> Andrewes'" <portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 8:19 AM
>
> Me too.
>
> Cheryl
>
> ----- Original
Message -----
>
> From: john ireland
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=devonshire1968@hotmail.com>
>
> To: david butler
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>
>
; gerald <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=geraldvj@gmail.com>
>
vernon-jackson ; 'Hugh Mason'
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h442@btinternet.com> ;
> eleanor scott
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>
>
; les stevens
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cllrljstevens@aol.com> ;
> darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk> ;
>
steve wylie
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=stevenewylie@aol.com> ;
> margo10226@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=margo10226@hotmail.com> ; lee
> hunt <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ljhunt@ntlworld.com> ;
> dave fuller
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk> ;
> lee hunt2
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richard.adair@ntlworld.com> ;
> paula riches
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paulair@ntlworld.com> ;
> cheryl buggy
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> ;
> terry <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=twhall@supanet.com>
>
hall ; jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com> ; leo
> madden
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=leo.madden@googlemail.com> ;
> 'Mike Andrewes'
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:16 AM
>
> Subject: RE: Shunning
>
>Dear David
> I totally agree. Consequently I shall be exempting myself from part of the
> Full Council meeting next week as a form of silent protest and display of
> disgust.
> Regards
> John
>
>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:05:23 -0700
> From: davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>
> Subject:
Shunning
> To: geraldvj@gmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=geraldvj@gmail.com> ;
> h442@btinternet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h442@btinternet.com> ;
> eleanor.scott@btinternet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>
> ; cllrljstevens@aol.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cllrljstevens@aol.com> ;
> darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk> ;
> stevenewylie@aol.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=stevenewylie@aol.com> ;
> margo10226@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=margo10226@hotmail.com> ;
> devonshire1968@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=devonshire1968@hotmail.com> ;
> ljhunt@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ljhunt@ntlworld.com> ;
> dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk> ;
> richard.adair@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richard.adair@ntlworld.com> ;
> paulair@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paulair@ntlworld.com> ;
> cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> ;
> twhall@supanet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=twhall@supanet.com> ;
> JasonFaz1@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=JasonFaz1@ntlworld.com> ;
> leo.madden@googlemail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=leo.madden@googlemail.com> ;
> portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
> Dear Colleagues - it has come to my attention that certain of our colleagues
> are still greeting and talking with certain members of the public who have
> been making life quite unpleasant for a number of us - surely, in view of
> the gravity of the situation, we all ought to be shunning such folk and not
> responding to any contact or conversation. I think that we ought to stand
> together and express group solidarity in this matter. To do less is to
> affirm and confirm bad behaviour [putting it no more strongly!] and is
> undermining to those of us being singled out for particular attention.
>
Perhaps this could be discussed as calmly as possible at the Group meeting?
>
>> With all good wishes,
>
> David Stephen Butler,
> 11 Cunningham Court, Collingwood Road,
> SOUTHSEA Hants PO5 2SU
> Tel 023-9229-1652, Mobile 07890-661628
>
> From: "Paula
Riches" <paulair@ntlworld.com>
>
To: "'ELEANOR SCOTT'" <eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>,
"'john ireland'" <devonshire1968@hotmail.com>,
"'david butler'" <davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>,
"'gerald vernon-jackson'" <geraldvj@gmail.com>,
"'Hugh Mason'" <h442@btinternet.com>,
"'les stevens'" <cllrljstevens@aol.com>,
<darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk>,
"'steve wylie'" <stevenewylie@aol.com>,
<margo10226@hotmail.com>,
"'lee hunt'" <ljhunt@ntlworld.com>,
"'dave fuller'" <dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk>,
"'lee hunt2'" <richard.adair@ntlworld.com>,
"'terry hall'" <twhall@supanet.com>,
<jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com>,
"'leo madden'" <leo.madden@googlemail.com>,
"'Mike Andrewes'" <portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>,
"'Cheryl Buggy'" <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com>
>
Subject: RE: Please read this [Re: Shunning]
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:55:13 +0100
>
> Hi Colleagues
>
> Sorry I did not make the Lib Dem meeting but I voluntarily put myself into
> solitary confinement as my daughter’s partner has swine flu and I have had
> my daughter and
6 week old baby staying with me this week.
>
> On the matter of a certain person. I have seen Michael
Lawther on many
> occasions stating that we as councillors should have some kind of protection
> from this
man. Then we get two security officers. That was not what I
> wanted and guess you all agree with me.
>
> I have also made it clear that should I become Lord Mayor next year I will
> be taking a very strong approach to having
unscrupulous individuals
> disrupting our Council Meetings. If there is proof of his allegations
> that’s acceptable but without such proof
he will not be allowed to speak or
> make accusations against councillors or council officers.
>
>
I would be most grateful if one of you gets back to me on the results of
> today’s discussions.
>
>Many thanks Paula
>
>
>
From: ELEANOR SCOTT [mailto:eleanor.scott@btinternet.com]
> Sent:
17 July 2009 09:14
> To: john ireland; david butler; gerald vernon-jackson; 'Hugh Mason'; les
> stevens;
darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk; steve wylie; margo10226@hotmail.com; lee
>
hunt; dave fuller; lee hunt2; paula riches; terry hall;
> jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com; leo madden;
'Mike Andrewes'; Cheryl Buggy
> Subject: Please read this [Re: Shunning]
>
> I agree also. Please can this be the first item at the Group Meeting at 4pm
> today? In the current circumstances
of harassment and being in a certain
> person's sights, I don't want to be too late home to my children.
>
>I was told on Tuesday afternoon that, given that a certain person was
> planning to attend my Env Decision Meeting the following morning to speak on
> each item, I would be 'provided with security'. I rang David Williams
and
said that if there was perceived
to be a risk to me (or staff) then the
> person should be barred from building. Otherwise I would not attend the
>
meeting. David chose not to seek to bar the person (despite there being
> numerous precedents of members of the public
being barred from various
> council premises) so I took a principled stand and said I would not attend
> the
meeting. It was therefore cancelled. (Business I believe moved to Full
> Cabinet - a fudge rather than a solution)
>
> I spent much of Wednesday talking to CID and will be making another formal
statement of harassment - there so much more going on - and I would
expect
> now that the Group agrees that the Leader will instruct David
Williams to
>
ban this person from the Civic Offices and the Guildhall, and/or slaps an
> injunction on him. I also spoke to a firm of solicitors who suggest that
> "even a complex injunction should cost no more than £550 includung any
court
> fee."
>
> Members of the public have been barred from council buildings for far less
> than he has done. One of our own members' sectearies has been threatened by
> him, for goodness sake -
and yes, she did make a formal written statement
> and was interviewed by DC Julie Way.
>
>I feel
totally let down. I checked with Stephen Kerr in legal whether the
> Council has a duty of care to its councillors
while they are on council
> premises engaged in council business. The answer is yes, the Council has a
> duty
of care to all people lawfully on its premises including councillors.
> So where do the taxpayer-funded security guards
fit into this?
>
>There are others in the Group whose lives are being turned upside down by
> this
man.
>
> I can't go into a Neighbourhood Forum without him standing at the door
> shouting at me. Even at a Cabinet Meeting I'm always wondering is he going
> to waiting on the stairs, or by the toilet, or in Guildhall Square. If I
> can't do the job I was elected to do, what's the point of being a
> councillor?
>
> The lies he is telling about me on his website and not only defamatory of
>
me, but damage the Council's reputation and I cannot for the life of me
> understand why the Chief Executive is
allowing this to happen.
>
> One further thing - I am complaining to the Bar Council about a certain
person's barrister. She recently told a jury
something about me that was
> untrue,
and that formed what was probably a significant part of a
> (successful) defence.
>
> Thank you for reading this far.
>
>Yours in haste
>
>Eleanor
>
>
> --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Cheryl Buggy <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Cheryl Buggy <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com>
>
Subject: Re: Shunning
> To: "john ireland" <devonshire1968@hotmail.com>, "david
butler"
> <davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>, "gerald
vernon-jackson"
> <geraldvj@gmail.com>, "'Hugh Mason'"
<h442@btinternet.com>, "eleanor
scott"
> <eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>, "les stevens" <cllrljstevens@aol.com>,
>
darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk, "steve wylie" <stevenewylie@aol.com>,
>
margo10226@hotmail.com, "lee hunt" <ljhunt@ntlworld.com>, "dave
fuller"
> <dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk>, "lee hunt2" <richard.adair@ntlworld.com>,
>
"paula riches" <paulair@ntlworld.com>, "terry hall" <twhall@supanet.com>,
>
jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com, "leo madden" <leo.madden@googlemail.com>, "'Mike
> Andrewes'" <portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 8:19 AM
>
> Me too.
>
> Cheryl
>
> ----- Original
Message -----
>
> From: john ireland
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=devonshire1968@hotmail.com>
>
> To: david butler
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>
>
; gerald <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=geraldvj@gmail.com>
>
vernon-jackson ; 'Hugh Mason'
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h442@btinternet.com> ;
> eleanor scott
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>
>
; les stevens
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cllrljstevens@aol.com> ;
> darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk> ;
>
steve wylie
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=stevenewylie@aol.com> ;
> margo10226@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=margo10226@hotmail.com> ; lee
> hunt <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ljhunt@ntlworld.com> ;
> dave fuller
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk> ;
> lee hunt2
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richard.adair@ntlworld.com> ;
> paula riches
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paulair@ntlworld.com> ;
> cheryl buggy
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> ;
> terry <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=twhall@supanet.com>
>
hall ; jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com> ; leo
> madden
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=leo.madden@googlemail.com> ;
> 'Mike Andrewes'
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:16 AM
>
> Subject: RE: Shunning
>
>Dear David
> I totally agree. Consequently I shall be exempting myself from part of the
> Full Council meeting next week as a form of silent protest and display of
> disgust.
> Regards
> John
>
>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:05:23 -0700
> From: davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>
> Subject:
Shunning
> To: geraldvj@gmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=geraldvj@gmail.com> ;
> h442@btinternet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h442@btinternet.com> ;
> eleanor.scott@btinternet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>
> ; cllrljstevens@aol.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cllrljstevens@aol.com> ;
> darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk> ;
> stevenewylie@aol.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=stevenewylie@aol.com> ;
> margo10226@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=margo10226@hotmail.com> ;
> devonshire1968@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=devonshire1968@hotmail.com> ;
> ljhunt@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ljhunt@ntlworld.com> ;
> dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk> ;
> richard.adair@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richard.adair@ntlworld.com> ;
> paulair@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paulair@ntlworld.com> ;
> cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> ;
> twhall@supanet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=twhall@supanet.com> ;
> JasonFaz1@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=JasonFaz1@ntlworld.com> ;
> leo.madden@googlemail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=leo.madden@googlemail.com> ;
> portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
> Dear Colleagues - it has come to my attention that certain of our colleagues
> are still greeting and talking with certain members of the public who have
> been making life quite unpleasant for a number of us - surely, in view of
> the gravity of the situation, we all ought to be shunning such folk and not
> responding to any contact or conversation. I think that we ought to stand
> together and express group solidarity in this matter. To do less is to
> affirm and confirm bad behaviour [putting it no more strongly!] and is
> undermining to those of us being singled out for particular attention.
>
Perhaps this could be discussed as calmly as possible at the Group meeting?
>
>> With all good wishes,
>
> David Stephen Butler,
> 11 Cunningham Court, Collingwood Road,
> SOUTHSEA Hants PO5 2SU
> Tel 023-9229-1652, Mobile 07890-661628
>
> From: "Paula Riches"
<paulair@ntlworld.com>
>
To: "'ELEANOR SCOTT'" <eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>,
"'john ireland'" <devonshire1968@hotmail.com>,
"'david butler'" <davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>,
"'gerald vernon-jackson'" <geraldvj@gmail.com>,
"'Hugh Mason'" <h442@btinternet.com>,
"'les stevens'" <cllrljstevens@aol.com>,
<darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk>,
"'steve wylie'" <stevenewylie@aol.com>,
<margo10226@hotmail.com>,
"'lee hunt'" <ljhunt@ntlworld.com>,
"'dave fuller'" <dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk>,
"'lee hunt2'" <richard.adair@ntlworld.com>,
"'terry hall'" <twhall@supanet.com>,
<jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com>,
"'leo madden'" <leo.madden@googlemail.com>,
"'Mike Andrewes'" <portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>,
"'Cheryl Buggy'" <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com>
>
Subject: RE: Please read this [Re: Shunning]
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:55:13 +0100
>
> Hi Colleagues
>
> Sorry I did not make the Lib Dem meeting but I voluntarily put myself into
> solitary confinement as my daughter’s partner has swine flu and I have had
> my daughter and
6 week old baby staying with me this week.
>
> On the matter of a certain person. I have seen Michael
Lawther on many
> occasions stating that we as councillors should have some kind of protection
> from this
man. Then we get two security officers. That was not what I
> wanted and guess you all agree with me.
>
> I have also made it clear that should I become Lord Mayor next year I will
> be taking a very strong approach to having
unscrupulous individuals
> disrupting our Council Meetings. If there is proof of his allegations
> that’s acceptable but without such proof
he will not be allowed to speak or
> make accusations against councillors or council officers.
>
>
I would be most grateful if one of you gets back to me on the results of
> today’s discussions.
>
>Many thanks Paula
>
>
>
From: ELEANOR SCOTT [mailto:eleanor.scott@btinternet.com]
> Sent:
17 July 2009 09:14
> To: john ireland; david butler; gerald vernon-jackson; 'Hugh Mason'; les
> stevens;
darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk; steve wylie; margo10226@hotmail.com; lee
>
hunt; dave fuller; lee hunt2; paula riches; terry hall;
> jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com; leo madden;
'Mike Andrewes'; Cheryl Buggy
> Subject: Please read this [Re: Shunning]
>
> I agree also. Please can this be the first item at the Group Meeting at 4pm
> today? In the current circumstances
of harassment and being in a certain
> person's sights, I don't want to be too late home to my children.
>
>I was told on Tuesday afternoon that, given that a certain person was
> planning to attend my Env Decision Meeting the following morning to speak on
> each item, I would be 'provided with security'. I rang David Williams
and
said that if there was perceived
to be a risk to me (or staff) then the
> person should be barred from building. Otherwise I would not attend the
>
meeting. David chose not to seek to bar the person (despite there being
> numerous precedents of members of the public
being barred from various
> council premises) so I took a principled stand and said I would not attend
> the
meeting. It was therefore cancelled. (Business I believe moved to Full
> Cabinet - a fudge rather than a solution)
>
> I spent much of Wednesday talking to CID and will be making another formal
statement of harassment - there so much more going on - and I would
expect
> now that the Group agrees that the Leader will instruct David
Williams to
>
ban this person from the Civic Offices and the Guildhall, and/or slaps an
> injunction on him. I also spoke to a firm of solicitors who suggest that
> "even a complex injunction should cost no more than £550 includung any
court
> fee."
>
> Members of the public have been barred from council buildings for far less
> than he has done. One of our own members' sectearies has been threatened by
> him, for goodness sake -
and yes, she did make a formal written statement
> and was interviewed by DC Julie Way.
>
>I feel
totally let down. I checked with Stephen Kerr in legal whether the
> Council has a duty of care to its councillors
while they are on council
> premises engaged in council business. The answer is yes, the Council has a
> duty
of care to all people lawfully on its premises including councillors.
> So where do the taxpayer-funded security guards
fit into this?
>
>There are others in the Group whose lives are being turned upside down by
> this
man.
>
> I can't go into a Neighbourhood Forum without him standing at the door
> shouting at me. Even at a Cabinet Meeting I'm always wondering is he going
> to waiting on the stairs, or by the toilet, or in Guildhall Square. If I
> can't do the job I was elected to do, what's the point of being a
> councillor?
>
> The lies he is telling about me on his website and not only defamatory of
>
me, but damage the Council's reputation and I cannot for the life of me
> understand why the Chief Executive is
allowing this to happen.
>
> One further thing - I am complaining to the Bar Council about a certain
person's barrister. She recently told a jury
something about me that was
> untrue,
and that formed what was probably a significant part of a
> (successful) defence.
>
> Thank you for reading this far.
>
>Yours in haste
>
>Eleanor
>
>
> --- On Fri, 17/7/09, Cheryl Buggy <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Cheryl Buggy <cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com>
>
Subject: Re: Shunning
> To: "john ireland" <devonshire1968@hotmail.com>, "david
butler"
> <davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>, "gerald
vernon-jackson"
> <geraldvj@gmail.com>, "'Hugh Mason'"
<h442@btinternet.com>, "eleanor
scott"
> <eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>, "les stevens" <cllrljstevens@aol.com>,
>
darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk, "steve wylie" <stevenewylie@aol.com>,
>
margo10226@hotmail.com, "lee hunt" <ljhunt@ntlworld.com>, "dave
fuller"
> <dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk>, "lee hunt2" <richard.adair@ntlworld.com>,
>
"paula riches" <paulair@ntlworld.com>, "terry hall" <twhall@supanet.com>,
>
jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com, "leo madden" <leo.madden@googlemail.com>, "'Mike
> Andrewes'" <portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 8:19 AM
>
> Me too.
>
> Cheryl
>
> ----- Original
Message -----
>
> From: john ireland
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=devonshire1968@hotmail.com>
>
> To: david butler
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>
>
; gerald <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=geraldvj@gmail.com>
>
vernon-jackson ; 'Hugh Mason'
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h442@btinternet.com> ;
> eleanor scott
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>
>
; les stevens
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cllrljstevens@aol.com> ;
> darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk> ;
>
steve wylie
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=stevenewylie@aol.com> ;
> margo10226@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=margo10226@hotmail.com> ; lee
> hunt <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ljhunt@ntlworld.com> ;
> dave fuller
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk> ;
> lee hunt2
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richard.adair@ntlworld.com> ;
> paula riches
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paulair@ntlworld.com> ;
> cheryl buggy
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> ;
> terry <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=twhall@supanet.com>
>
hall ; jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jasonfaz1@ntlworld.com> ; leo
> madden
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=leo.madden@googlemail.com> ;
> 'Mike Andrewes'
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:16 AM
>
> Subject: RE: Shunning
>
>Dear David
> I totally agree. Consequently I shall be exempting myself from part of the
> Full Council meeting next week as a form of silent protest and display of
> disgust.
> Regards
> John
>
>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:05:23 -0700
> From: davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidstephenbutler@yahoo.com>
> Subject:
Shunning
> To: geraldvj@gmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=geraldvj@gmail.com> ;
> h442@btinternet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h442@btinternet.com> ;
> eleanor.scott@btinternet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eleanor.scott@btinternet.com>
> ; cllrljstevens@aol.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cllrljstevens@aol.com> ;
> darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=darronwolf@yahoo.co.uk> ;
> stevenewylie@aol.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=stevenewylie@aol.com> ;
> margo10226@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=margo10226@hotmail.com> ;
> devonshire1968@hotmail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=devonshire1968@hotmail.com> ;
> ljhunt@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ljhunt@ntlworld.com> ;
> dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dave_fuller@hotmail.co.uk> ;
> richard.adair@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richard.adair@ntlworld.com> ;
> paulair@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paulair@ntlworld.com> ;
> cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cheryl.buggy@ntlworld.com> ;
> twhall@supanet.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=twhall@supanet.com> ;
> JasonFaz1@ntlworld.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=JasonFaz1@ntlworld.com> ;
> leo.madden@googlemail.com
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=leo.madden@googlemail.com> ;
> portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk
> <http://uk.mc870.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=portsmouthldp@cix.co.uk>
>
> Dear Colleagues - it has come to my attention that certain of our colleagues
> are still greeting and talking with certain members of the public who have
> been making life quite unpleasant for a number of us - surely, in view of
> the gravity of the situation, we all ought to be shunning such folk and not
> responding to any contact or conversation. I think that we ought to stand
> together and express group solidarity in this matter. To do less is to
> affirm and confirm bad behaviour [putting it no more strongly!] and is
> undermining to those of us being singled out for particular attention.
>
Perhaps this could be discussed as calmly as possible at the Group meeting?
>
>> With all good wishes,
>
> David Stephen Butler,
> 11 Cunningham Court, Collingwood Road,
> SOUTHSEA Hants PO5 2SU
> Tel 023-9229-1652, Mobile 07890-661628
>